Friday, September 02, 2005

So Annoying!

I think one of the things that annoys me most in the Australian spoken version of the English language, is the constant mispronunciation of the letter 'H'.

So many people think that the letter 'H' has to have a "h" sound in it, but in actual fact the letter in pronounced 'aytch', and not 'haytch'. I'd like to meet the dufus who first thought "Derrrr... letter 'H' make no sense... I put 'h' sound in da front of it!"

Check it out in the dictionary if you like!

29 Comments:

At 2:40 pm, September 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'a! 'a! 'a! that's funy!

Y isnt phonetic spelt fonetik?

Actually, lingwsts will tell you that there ss no rite way to do langwich - it's always evolving, unless of course U R an Inglish teecher with a big red pen and an XM in front of you to marc!

 
At 3:07 pm, September 02, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

Ooooo, I dunno....

I think liguists will tell you that there are dialectic differences, but I'm not so sure about 'no right way'.

Otherwise I could do this:

"FffffF FFfff" - that's how I spell 'teeth'.

 
At 9:09 pm, September 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, but it is always evolving; rules we thought fixed are fluid, shaped by culture. You don't 'invent' new ways to spell teeth such as "FffffF FFfff" [actually it's fffph fffph] , but over the years, the value of the symbols will change.

 
At 9:16 pm, September 02, 2005, Blogger Brie said...

is it just a teenager thing or do other people use 'ish' as an ajective?

 
At 12:34 am, September 03, 2005, Blogger Natalia said...

Erm... I have heard it both ways and I am still not sure if one is incorrect, or just another version...maybe I should check with a linguist.

-N

 
At 12:28 pm, September 03, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

I agree Danny. Makes you sound like a bogan when you say haytch. Bloody blogans...

 
At 2:16 pm, September 03, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

bloody private and chrissan school snobs! What the flip is wrong with HHHHHaitch???

You la dee da p!onces

 
At 5:14 pm, September 03, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

Shazza... haha! It's ok, just go back to bazza and have another VB.

 
At 9:22 am, September 05, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

Good work all :)

I think Megan's raised an interesting point, and I think it might've been the point I intended in the first place :)

It is true that language is always changing and evolving, and it usually does so differently among different areas and socio-economic status groups. For example, having a nickname "Shazza" identifies you with a rural, low socio-economic, even 'bogan' background.

In the same way, saying 'haytch' instead of 'aytch' also identifies you within a bogan social group, as Megan has correctly pointed out.

 
At 10:55 am, September 05, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

That's right! It puts you right in bogan city!

 
At 5:26 pm, September 05, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe how bloody judgemental and self satisfied you lot sound! Don't you see how pejorative "bogan" sounds? Especially from you privilged slackers. Pull your collective finger out, and recognise that your Jesus would have been thought of as a bogan by the middle class religious classes of the day! Who gives a rat's how people pronounce words!!

 
At 1:45 pm, September 06, 2005, Blogger Brie said...

to puffin: I meant as in 'how was it?' 'ish'

 
At 11:59 am, September 07, 2005, Blogger Martin Boutros said...

No, not right!

 
At 12:52 pm, September 07, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

Lol, I reckon you're right, pavlosio... :) Nice Bible quote too. lol.

Hehehe... his blog comes up as 'Page not found'.

Hmmm... 'cheeshed off', while it is true that Jesus would've been considered a 'bogan' in his time, it is debatable that he would've spoken in a way (lexicon, phonology and syntax) that would make other people think that he's ignorant of the way that his language was spoken.

Otherwise, why would he have been taken so seriously as to make people want to string him to the cross? If he would've had the same language characteristics as today's 'bogan', then most people, especially the sophisticated aristocracy, would've laughed him off as being a 'nuff-nuff' that wouldn't know any better.

Jesus spoke in a way that was relevant to his audience. Therefore we should take this principle and apply it to the way that we need to speak in different social atmosphere's in our society. If someone walked into an interview and said "See, right, I need a job here an' that", then he/she wouldn't be taken seriously by the interviewer, because their language choices/tendenacies were not appropriate in that circumstance.

 
At 7:25 pm, September 08, 2005, Blogger Brie said...

well that was an incredibly serious comment...i'd just like to add that I like potted petunias...

 
At 9:51 pm, September 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...but surprisingly, all that crossed the potted petunias mind was 'Not again' which goes to show that people usually underestimate petunias, and indeed most plant life..."

Or something like that. DOUGLAS ADAM QUOTES FOR ALL!

 
At 10:45 pm, September 08, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

I like ish. I use it a lot.

HITCHIKERS!!!! YAY!!!!

 
At 10:52 pm, September 08, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

Good one, Puffin :)

PUFFISH!

 
At 4:40 pm, September 09, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

I believe that is called 'morphology', dear fellows :)

I'm learnding!

 
At 9:25 pm, September 09, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ate at f-ish off my d-ish,
with as sw-ish
how boy-ish
It was del-ish,
I w-ish!

mm! mm! -ish
ps. sYnergyish is free to use thse lyrics to compose a excellentish song
Go tinkish

 
At 12:57 am, September 10, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

I free freeish to do that-ish.

I can't get to sleep, damn thunder/lightning/rain/wind storm...

 
At 7:28 pm, September 10, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

Rain yes, wind no. For me anyway.

 
At 6:29 pm, September 13, 2005, Blogger HoneyBee said...

This is funny ish. first aimless and puffin were having their own conversation ish thing.
And it was ish but every one joined in this ishy conversation and now it is not ish it is good!
with the H thing i pronounce it both ways not meaning to i just say aytch one day and haytch the next.

 
At 11:45 pm, September 13, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm afraid, Crazyness, I'm going to 'ave to perform a citzen's arrest.

According to statute 15 of the 'Verbal Order Mouthing & Intonation Tribunal Ruling (VOMIT), section 13, "All citizen's must choose either one or other pronounciation of the letter "H"; and having so chosen they are forbidden, on pain of an 'orrible death to swap over"

 
At 9:44 am, September 14, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

ARRESTED!

 
At 1:14 pm, September 14, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

Go revhead! The VOMIT act is one of the most imporant of our society, if we let this slip, society will crumble!!!

 
At 1:01 pm, September 16, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

Vomit always contains orange stuff I've found out. Unless you've been drinking too much red wine and then it looks like blood. That was an unhappy moment...

 
At 10:45 am, September 20, 2005, Blogger Ludicrousity said...

Oooo dear! There's an image I can live without!

 
At 1:22 pm, September 21, 2005, Blogger Dboy said...

Really? Just wait a while, you'll soon wonder how you ever did live without it.

 

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